DSII TOOLKIT RELEASED

Woooohoooooo....this it the most exciting thing thats happened in ages...woohooo.

Thanks GPG...

woohooo

legendary...:lol:

just as I really start to think DS2 is dead.. but you know maybe the Toolkit can revive it...we'll see, if not then it's on to Oblivion woo :)

Siegemax installed into my 3ds max 7 folder automatically. You shouldn't have to manually do it to my knowledge.

Nothing was automatically installed in my 3dsMax5 folder. Could it be that the SiegeMax plug-ins do not work with v5 of Max?

-- Check out Chronicles: Preludes for a different kind of DS1 mod --

mcarpville

snowfox: you must have 3dsmax 6 7 or 8, however, 6 may have been removed but i can not confirm. there are explicit and 8 resources.
contact me if you need to know more

edit: to clarify, i have tried it with 7 and 8. you must rerun the install after installing 7 or 8 or both and the siegemax install is automaticly carried out.

...and here I was thinking the GPG art team were the only people still using Max5. Looks like I've been too keen on getting them upgraded to the newer releases!

The current installer does not include the SiegeMax version for Max5.

I'll look into getting Max5 included in the full package, or put together a Max5 specific release that will give you what you need.

.biddle

I'm even worse, I'm still using 4.2. That leaves me looking at $3500 for a new Max 8 (no upgrade from before 5!) before I can use the free DS2 toolkit :(

I suspect a lot of people only had gmax as a modelling tool and are going to be totally boggled by the prospect of spending that much as the price of admission. If you had a standalone tool that built ASP/PRS/SNO from another format that has common support for export, that would be the best of all worlds, but I imagine you only have one that runs inside MAX.

There is the 30 day trial, but to even get a link for that you have to agree they can distribute your email to Discreet's resellers.
There's also less savory options *sigh* but really it's a shame that the hobbyist is treated the same as a professional company, esp. when they don't make any money whatsoever from their content.
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gmax has been discontinued and I am unable ship an updated version of the plugin required by the DS2TK.

HOWEVER....

The files written by the gmax gamepack (intended for DS1) can still be read into DS2 as there is code in the game to load older formats.

Using gmax to create content is 'officially unsupported', but is definitely possible (and a lot easier than the hacks I've seen to get gmax generated content into games that never even had an official gmax license)

.biddle

Pity about the gMax discountinuation thing. Considering that it has now fallen away, what are the chances of getting an official specification of the .ASP, .PRS and .SNO file formats so that the modding community could create importers/exporters for other environments, such as Maya, Bryce, Milkshape, etc.?

This is good news.

Just BTW, I really want to complement the GPG team for the great work done with DS2. I really like what has been done with flicks and the flick bindings promise to be exceptionally useful.

Well, we use it for a graphics course and since there is no hard core professional rendering going on, it REALLY isn't necessary to upgrade, especially with the price tag. And besides, there is SO much you can do in 5, that the benefits of going to 8 don't warrent it.

I'd REALLY appreciate you getting a Max5 release out ;)

-- Check out Chronicles: Preludes for a different kind of DS1 mod --

i have finally resolve that problem...my dungeon siege 2 game was not installed on my c:\ drive .........
so now it is working fine....
i noticed that there is no help file like in dungeon siege one and
when i converted the big map...220 megs to go and have a look
fot the triggers and all....960 megs of un compressed data...
my computer is lagging...
it would be nice to have a smaller tutorial map like in dungeon siege one and a help file in the editor...
many thanks...papadan

most of the floors you want can be found in terrain/generic/natural/floor/base.

If generic doesnt match what you want try changing the node set under the main menu node/current node set.

Some sets dont match other sets, experiment. If all else fails load up some regions and see what gpg has used, you can select a node, main menu, mode, properties and see the node's name.
in addition you may double click on a node in the list of nodes and the previewer opens. you can also try out different node sets while its open. dungeons caves and outdoor terrain all use similar naming schemes and there is a lot more variety of node shapes than in ds1, thus the new and also confusing naming trees. browsing around the list using the previewer will help you get familiar with them as well as seeing some pretty wild stuff here and there.

if you arent sure where to browse, terrain/generic/natural
is where you want to start

mcarpville

A mod noob here to help another:

There is a help-file. It is hidden and a mess though, but still.

Open Logic.ds2res with TankViewer, then extract the help-file you find there...
Now if I can only make the help-file application give them correct... :( (So far, everything seems pretty randomly dropped everywhere; and finding what you are looking for is a task itself :()

EDIT: Meh, I give up on that help-file. It takes longrer to find it there than to just try it and see what happens...
(Nice help-file, thus BTW)

If GPG could start a wiki page for DS2 modding, that would distribute the documentation work. I'm sure there are lots of DS1 veterans with tricks they could test with DS2 and share with everyone.

Cheers,
The Hanker Chief

Great idea, 'chief. But why don't you just make one yourself? Why wait for GPG to make one (if ever)?

/me points to the Forge...

http://herenaforge.org/tiki-index.php?page=Main

Bah! Just after I went through the trouble to find a free host and make a site. Oh well.
/me presses delete

Oh yeah! Heh, I really wish there had been a wiki at the onset of DSI development, hence the reason for converting a site with just my own mods on it into a community project. I hope it lives up to the mission!

I can't wait to dive into DSII myself this winter break!

Omniscient Colossus
Herena Forge

The wiki seems a bit sparse. DS2 modding experts to arms! I've started a page on what I know about Rules.skrit.

Cheers,
The Hanker Chief

Thanks for the debugging tips.

Was reading the flick files before that and am pleased to say that I deduced most of the stuff from there. There's a lot to be said for an easy to read/understand language.

Oh yes, I've got lots of plans for the flick system. I was in the process of writing something similar (obviously not in the easy to use form of a new language) for DS1 that generated gizmos that controlled everything in a sequence. It was a nightmare! Getting "threads" working was an issue. And latent conditions were another story completely!

Even straight forward NISs were painful in DS1. One of the NISs I set up ran for about 2 minutes and had a LOT of co-ordination required. The introduction of cues, branching threads, etc. has meant that I can basically set the whole thing up again with ONE flick, an activation gizmo and that's it. I forsee a LOT more detailed, colourful sequences being written (well, I intend too anyway).

Excellent stuff :)