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Workaround for inn bug WITHOUT losing everything you have in BW. <Warning: Complicated>

Keldorn2198

Self-help (Technical Issues)

Monday, September 18, 2006 - 13:24

This is a way to get around the Inn Bug in BW without having to start over.

First, lets define exactly what the Inn Bug is.
This is when you have NPCs and pets in the inn when you transfer your character from DS2 to DS2BW and you find that you cannot get them out of the inn or release from the inn. This bug does not seem to affect NPCs/Pets that were in your party when you did the transfer (even if you send them to the in during BW), nor does it affect any characters you add to your party in BW.

Who this is for: Players plagued with the bug that want it gone and are competent in the use of some basic modding tools. I am NOT going to spell out were every file is located, because odds are if you can't find them, this fix is probably to complicated for you. I am going to assume that anyone trying this can find their way around their computer and they know how to make new folders, rename, backup/copy and delete files and folders.

What this fix does: This "fix" will wipe out all characters in the inn, allowing you to recruit them again from scratch during play of the normal campaign using BW. I do not know whether it makes the NPCs available in the BW part of the game, but I would be inclined to guess probably not.

What you will need:
- DS2 tool kit (specificly the tank viewer)
- the Tank Creator 2 tool (available at http://dulacs.com/siegecore/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=20 ).
- You will also need Ely's Succubus Mod for both Ds2 and BW (both available at http://karamail.nerim.net/elys/forums/viewforum.php?f=4&sid=385753d0b6d64b079c43d16e24767fae).

Step 1: Run DS2BW and load your current game. Go to an inn and add any pets and NPCs to the party that you can (that is, those you may have recruited during BW). If you do not do this, you will lose them and everything on them. Then exit the game.

Step 2: Make copies of your character Savegames (the character FOLDERS, not the individual files) from both DS2 and DS2BW. These will be crucial to keep in case things go wrong.

Step 3: Run DS2 with the original character you originally transfered (This MUST be the character you are now playing in BW). Go to an inn and release EVERY character in the inn. There should be no one at all, either NPC or pet left. Now save the game ONCE and exit.

Step 4: Run DS2BW a convert the character from step 3. You will be informed that there is already such a character. Allow the game to overwrite it (aren't you glad you made that copy in step 2?). Start a game with this character and imediately save. Then exit DS2BW.

Step 5: Open your latest BW save with Tankviewer (the filename should be "Charactername".ds2party). Extract that file to an empty folder. Open the folder and copy the file called "disbanded_member_info.ds2" and paste it somewhere it will not be accidently deleted.

Step 6: Open you backup of you original BW savegame with TankViewer and extract the files to an empty folder. Delete all files in the folder with the word "disbanded" in them. Then copy disbanded_member_info.ds2 that you got in step 5 into this folder.

Step 7: Use Tank Creator 2 to remake your savegame file, using the folder in step 6 as the source and "Charactername".ds2party as the destination. Put the savegame back in the save folder.

Step 8: Restore the original DS2 save file (this restores the characters in the Inn that you released)

At this point, your savegame should load with an empty inn. You can now recruit party members by re-playing the original campaign in DS2BW and meeting them again.

This did work for me.

Re: Workaround for inn bug WITHOUT losing everything you have in

Submitted by archangelo spumoni on Fri, 2006-10-06 10:40.

Keldorn2198 wrote:

Step 3: Run DS2 with the original character you originally transfered (This MUST be the character you are now playing in BW). Go to an inn and release EVERY character in the inn. There should be no one at all, either NPC or pet left. Now save the game ONCE and exit.

Now wait a minute. I can't release NPCs -- the RELEASE button is inactive on them. My saved game was multiplayer. Maybe single player is different?

I did something a little different. Admittedly, I had to start at the very beginning for my converted characer in Broken World, but it was not a big loss, since the Inn bug is such a showstopper I didn't get far in BW anyway. Like the method above, I am going to lose all the characters and items in the Inn.

1) Make copies of the old .ds2party and .ds2radar files in DS2. Get the most important items out of the characters at the Inn and distribute them among your active party members, because everything in the Inn is going to change.

2) Start DS2. Release all the characters you can from the Inn. As I said, the game won't let me release people, only mules and animals. Save. Exit DS2.

3) Start Broken World. Delete the party you are fixing from the "choose party" menu. Exit.

4) Start BW again. Convert the party from DS2 to replace the corrupted one. Convert the party from DS2 to replace the corrupted one. Start a new game with the BW map. Release one of your party to the Inn if your party is full. Make a list of each of the old characters that were still in the Inn in DS2. Find each one of them in town, recruit, send each one to the inn and replace to old character. Save and Exit.

5) Save the BW version of your .ds2party file just in case. Replace the current .ds2party with the next newest backup file. In multiplayer that would be .ds2party.ds2bak1. (I don't know why, or if, this step is necessary. I got the idea from a post on the Planet Dungeonsiege forums.)

6) Start with your party. Good luck.

So far, that seems to work. I can use the Inn slots OK (so far), NPCs don't fall into the bit bucket, and the game doesn't crash when I send Yoren to the Inn.

Suggestion: GPG could privide an option, in the convert-party-from-DS2 process, to clean out everything in the Inn.

Re: Workaround for inn bug WITHOUT losing everything you have in

Submitted by DragonTeeth12 on Fri, 2006-10-06 10:50.

>> Now wait a minute. I can't release NPCs -- the RELEASE button is inactive on them. My saved game was multiplayer. Maybe single player is different?

Releasing is _supposed_ to be only for pets, but there's a bug (!!) in the game that allows it for NPCs too...it think it's only for NPCs in inn "pages" past page 1.

Thanks for sharing your method, btw Smiling

DragonTeeth12
GPG moderator

Re: Workaround for inn bug WITHOUT losing everything you have in

Submitted by archangelo spumoni on Fri, 2006-10-06 12:56.

Thanks DT. If I buy a bunch of mules and send them to the Inn, maybe the NPCs will move down to the 2nd page? Not sure about the mechanics of the slots at the Inn. Anyway, the idea is to get all the NPCs moved to the 2nd page (if that works), then release them "to the wild," then release all the animals before converting to BW.

The way I did it, getting rid of the NPCs in DS2 was not necessary, but purging the animals from the Inn in DS2 was necessary. The reason that I have to get rid of all the animals in DS2 before converting to BW is: If I have, say, a mule named FRANCIS in the Inn, the game won't let me create anothe FRANCIS, so I can't replace that slot in the Inn.

Maybe the Inn bug occurs in native BW saves also?

Submitted by archangelo spumoni on Thu, 2006-10-12 10:38.

The method I psted above in this thread seemed to work at first, because I could send Yoren to the Inn without the game crashing, and he did not disappear from the game. But later on the game did not save characters or teleporters, so I would end up with a character (that did not go to the Inn) I had saved several hours of playing time earlier.

So I started a new character, one of the pre-made BW ones named Hadrian, that is, not converted from DS2. I played for 2-3 days, then as I was getting a mule out of the Inn, the game crashed and the mule disappeared. Maybe this is a one-time crash unrelated to the original Inn problem, but it sure looks a lot like it to me.

We have been assuming that the Inn bug is limited to characters converted from DS2, but that may not be true.

Re: Workaround for inn bug WITHOUT losing everything you have in

Submitted by KillerGremal on Mon, 2006-10-09 08:44.

Keldorn2198 wrote:

. . .
What this fix does: This "fix" will wipe out all characters in the inn, allowing you to recruit them again from scratch during play of the normal campaign using BW. I do not know whether it makes the NPCs available in the BW part of the game, but I would be inclined to guess probably not.

What you will need:
- DS2 tool kit (specificly the tank viewer)
- the Tank Creator 2 tool (available at http://dulacs.com/siegecore/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=20 ).
- You will also need Ely's Succubus Mod for both Ds2 and BW (both available at http://karamail.nerim.net/elys/forums/viewforum.php?f=4&sid=385753d0b6d64b079c43d16e24767fae).
. . .

Under the current circumstances this is a good instruction above, me too i have entered the addon with 6 chars/pets and an empty inn party member storage, and have had until now no problems with the inn keeper. Smiling
But if 'just' wipe out all characters in the inn is the goal and if you need mods and the All*Saves laoder anyway, then why not first trying to wipe the inn directly by appropriate mods!?

Many mods allow meanwhile to release human party members or to increase the party size, as far as i know the mentioned Elys' Succubus Mod can do it, the Hotfix or Aranna Legecy mod would too and also an notable number of other (smaller and probably v2.0/v2.1 compatible) mods could also do it.
These mods all are featuring a modified button in the inn tab to be functional also on human NPCs (for every inn page).

Of course, depending on the damage of your savegame it's not guaranteed that the intended release will really work and perhaps you have to go the long way netheretheless, but it would be worth trying and most these mods you could uninstal later again without any problems (for v2.2/v2.3 it just requires to maintain the All*Saves loader for some further game sessions).

But generally, there are a lot (paying) convenience-players and it borders on an impertinence what is expected from them when they ionted to import their chars into the addon... Shocked

Re: Workaround for inn bug WITHOUT losing everything you have in

Submitted by Keldorn2198 on Sun, 2006-10-15 16:22.

KillerGremalf wrote:

I came up with this after I imported a character into DS2BW with npcs still in the inn and completed the veteran BW stage. I ran into problems in the Elite normal campaign, so I figured out a way to clean out the inn without restarting DS2BW. And I discovered the hard way that if you import corrupted characters in the inn, you cannot dismiss them in DS2BW even with Elys or any other mod that would normally allow you to.

Re: Workaround for inn bug WITHOUT losing everything you have in

Submitted by Aletys on Tue, 2006-10-24 06:43.

I had the very annoying Inn bug throughout the orig DS2 & found when I imported my characters into BW I had the same inn corruption problem as described above. My solution is a variant of what is described above, & does not require any mods or playing w/ tank files. It does require you do it before you actually start playing BW, so if you're too far along to want to go back, one of the other approaches will need to be used.

I got out of BW, opened my last save game in the original DS2, added enough pets at the inn that I got beyond the 3rd page, then started adding & releasing the NPCs (only) to the inn until all the NPCs were on the last page (had to be at least page 3 on the inn list). You also need to view each pet/NPC at the inn before adding them, to find out who's really in that slot, or you'll just be cycling pets & never get the NPC's where you want them.

At that point, I grabbed what I wanted from their equipment, sold what I didn't want to keep, & sent the NPC back to the inn. I was then able to release the NPCs from the inn permanently, just like you can pets (as long as they're not on the 1st 2 pages, & you do have to recheck to see who's really in the slot). Don't do this in the middle of a game, or they'll be gone permanently for that level - you can get them back when you start again at the next level, & they'll have the appropriate stats for that level.

Once I was sure all the NPCs were gone, (by viewing each slot one by one), I then did the same with the pets & cleared the inn completely (no NPCs or pets stored there at all), storing what equipment I wanted to keep in either the stash or on the active party. Re-saved. Got out of DS2, restarted BW, converted the party, & I was able to play the whole BW w/o any probs. The inn bug did not recur in any form for the entire game.

Re: Workaround for inn bug WITHOUT losing everything you have in

Submitted by Loimko on Sat, 2007-06-23 13:20.

What a disappointment.. Can't you guys do anything right at GPG ?
Sorry, I'm not the 'complaining gamer' at all, but I've been through a hell of a lot of sh*t with this complete game, and it's really starting to push away the fun!

First I'd say "I would SO love another expansion!"
Now I'd say "Save me the trouble"

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